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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Next Generation Media Formats Reply with quote

I just wondered what everyones thoughts are on it. Does Blue Ray matter and does only having standard DVD capacity hurt Microsoft?


My personal thoughts MS will release larger capacity hard drives to compensate for any lack of space on regular DVD (Tomshardware just reviewed a half a terrabyte drive and I figure a few years down the road the buyable 360 HD will grow in size)

A lot of current titles fill the DVD's with protection and padding.

As for PS3 if it doesnt get a HD then the Blue Ray discs will guarantee plenty of storage space for the games.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is having a larger hard drive going to give the Xbox DVDs more capacity?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Installing games after a purchase = more annoying than a torturial.

And a later release "huger" HD for the Xbox 360 would just be annoying when you'd have to make up some magical trick to transfer all you data to the huger one when you decide to replace the old HD.

And it's really bad for MS that the 360 has a horrible drive at the moment + that it doesn't support any "next-gen" format.

There are already developer complains about lack of media space and there are probably several games in development that already unfortunatly have had to suffer the fate of going multi-disc.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh no multiple discs

the HORROR

the X-Box 360 is OVER
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheRedEye wrote:
How is having a larger hard drive going to give the Xbox DVDs more capacity?


It wont I just figured they would compress and have installs of at least parts of the game on the HD.


As for multidisk stuff I guess it never really bothered me on the ps so it shouldnt really on the 360.

But im also going to say this about blue ray if its like anything else sony has made then im avoiding it like the plague early on cause all the 1st ps3s will probably end up with bad lasers. Ive already went through that with both the ps and ps2.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oh no multiple discs

the HORROR

the X-Box 360 is OVER


Depending on the game type and length, I'd say multiple discs is in some cases = bad.

There are lots of reasons to avoid it, both for the purchaser of the product and the producer/publisher.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:57 am    Post subject: Content protection... Reply with quote

While space is a factor in the BRD vs HD-DVD debate, the main debate is content protection. HD-DVD's content protection scheme is more consumer friendly. BRD is much more draconian and "fluid" when it comes to fair use rights.

PS - Has anyone read about the legislation to close the analog hole? I hear my rights being flushed down the toilet right now...


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call me old-fashioned, but I still fail to see how 9.4GB of space (assuming dual-layer DVD) is insufficient for a single game. Most of my complete ROM sets don't take up nearly that much.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an interesting question, I have no idea what they do to fill those discs...
(Sure sure, bigger textures, models, higher quality music and sound effects, FMVs... but those can be taken off the list for Next Gen atm if you ask me)

GC somehow does it perfectly fine with just 1,5gb (and the DS seems to go fine with it's 1gbits)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Content protection... Reply with quote

SlyphGlitch wrote:
While space is a factor in the BRD vs HD-DVD debate, the main debate is content protection. HD-DVD's content protection scheme is more consumer friendly. BRD is much more draconian and "fluid" when it comes to fair use rights.

PS - Has anyone read about the legislation to close the analog hole? I hear my rights being flushed done the toilet right now...


Yes its officially proposed to close it now. Companies dont even want fair use to exist for content they want people to rebuy if they break it and eventually they want us to never own it just pay per play.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's just to control the mainstream. We out smarted them with the DVD format and we will outsmart them again.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HACK THE PLANET
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That movie Hackers glorified nerd culture and the internet at a level I never thought was possible.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

God damn it get the joke already
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All hail BMF
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