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rmonton
Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 11 Location: Paraguay
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: Some Saturn and Sega CD Protos... |
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Hi, I am a former employee of Sega Europe in the early 90´s and I have some Prototypes and betas of some Saturn and Sega CD games.
I don´t known if this games are interesting, but this is my list, perhaps there are some unreleased games here....
Mega CD Prototypes
Lethal Enforcers 8/2/1993
Jurassic Park - Pal Spanish
Ground Zero Texas - Pal
Chuck Rock 2 - Pal 1-12-93
Final Fight Pal Ver. 4/6
Thunderstorm - June 92 Pal
Silpheed Pal - Final Version 21/10
Dracula Unleashed Pal 29/11
Saturn Protos
Command And Conquer v 0.88 23/10/96
Bubble Bobble Collection (no music)
Rampage World Tour
Virtua Cop
Virtual-on V1.00 28/10
Rampage World Tour
NBA 97 16/2/97
Olympic Soccer
Olympic Soccer (another beta)
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Doom 4/10/96
Tilt!
Toshinden Final Jap NTSC 31/10
JVC Victory Boxing
Crypt Killer V 0.44 29/1
Lost Vikings 2
Scorcher
Galactic Attack
NHL Hockey 95
True Pinball
Decathlete
Clockwork Knight
Chill V 1.0 Pal 19-1-1998
Street Racer Pal Alpha 10/96
Return Fire
Clockwork Puzzle Alpha Jap NTSC (sort of Pengo with Clockwork Knight characters)
Mortal Kombat 3 - Beta 23-3-96
Myst 27/7/95
Three Dirty Dwarves Alpha
Virtua Cop 2 Beta
Mighty Hits Jap NTSC Beta
Guardian Heroes Pal
Jewels Of The Oracle
Shining Force Beta US NTSC
Story Of Thor 2 Spanish
Batman Coin op (Batman Forever) 23/9
Tennis Arena 16/9
Fifa 97 Beta 3 3/3/97
Slam N Jam Saturn Pal 23/4
Fighters Megamix |
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GDRI
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 352
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Well, Jewels of the Oracle definitely didn't come out. And what is Chill? |
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Borman
Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 32
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:38 am Post subject: |
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I know Im interested in some of them. PM me some prices and Ill see what I can do |
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rmonton
Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 11 Location: Paraguay
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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I want to put some screenshots of the games as well... there is any decent Saturn emulator for grab the screenshots?? , because my Saturn console it´s half-dead.... |
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Yakumo
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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GDRI wrote: | Well, Jewels of the Oracle definitely didn't come out. And what is Chill? | I'm pretty sure that the PAL version of Jewels of the Oracle did come out by Sunsoft. The Japanese version is in English anyway with Japanese text. no idea what Chill is mind you.
Yakumo |
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rmonton
Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 11 Location: Paraguay
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Chill is an Snowboard game from Silicon Knights, some Screenshots captured with Emulator...
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rmonton
Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 11 Location: Paraguay
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Clowkwork Puzzle its "Pepperouchau's Adventure Pengin War" proto...
I´ve find some info and videos here...
http://www.segacollection.com/specials/clocksat.html
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GDRI
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 352
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yakumo wrote: | I'm pretty sure that the PAL version of Jewels of the Oracle did come out by Sunsoft. The Japanese version is in English anyway with Japanese text. |
I guess you're right.
Well, at least Chill looks kinda interesting. |
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Vlcice
Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 89
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:36 am Post subject: |
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I believe Chill was released for the PS1 (here's an eBay auction selling a copy), but it looks like the Saturn version may not have been released. (I can't find anything about it, at least, and Satakore's missing it.)
Taking a look at the rest of the list, I'm not sure if there's anything else unreleased besides Return Fire, although Decathlete was retitled Athlete Kings for its PAL release. Tennis Arena was released in Japan only; is your version still Japanese? |
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handofg0d
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 455 Location: PA
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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rmonton wrote: | Chill is an Snowboard game from Silicon Knights |
According to several sites it was actually Silicon Dreams, and published by Eidos (for the PSX at least). |
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Fabrizo
Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: |
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I'm interested in the Saturn protos. Send me a list of prices and, like Borman, ill see what I can do. (Take that borman! ) |
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S.F
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Certainly interested in most of them if you want to sell, but let's see some disc pics first. Most of the games listed are known to me as being sold before or were available through download in the past.
Do a screenshot of Chill with Yoyo on the character select and a screenshot which shows anything that can be related to the Saturn (like the keyconfig on the options screen), thanks! |
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ProgrammingAce
Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 580
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Fabrizo wrote: | I'm interested in the Saturn protos. Send me a list of prices and, like Borman, ill see what I can do. (Take that borman! ) |
Hey, long time no see! Completely off topic, but I'd like to chat w/ you about something. |
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Druid II
Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 50
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: |
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The Clockwork Knight disc is dumped but it would be nice to see if your copy has any differences compared to the one that is already dumped.
Chill has most likely fallen into the big wave of canned games in 1998 due to SEGAs incompetence. That, and Steep Slope Sliders dominated the snowboard genre by late 97.
By the way. It would be very helpful if you could post the header info on the saturn games, using the Saturn Region Patcher tool (it has a built in feature to copy out a Saturn game header to txt files). It would help identifying the games and their versions. Saturn games store game versions in that header, so with those we can likely check which one of your discs have different data compared to the final releases.
Going with the date/version number on your lists:
Command And Conquer v 0.88 23/10/96 <-- PAL retail version is v 1.00 28/10/96, probably a prerelease version?
Virtual-on V1.00 28/10 <-- japanese and USA retail is v1.00 18/10, PAL final is v1.002 01/11. Pal prerelease ver?
NBA 97 16/2/97 <-- NBA Live 97 retail dates to 28/02/1997
Doom 4/10/96 <-- PAL retail dates to 20/11/1996
Crypt Killer V 0.44 29/1 <-- PAL retail is v1.001 and dates 31/01/1997
Street Racer Pal Alpha 10/96 <-- PAL retail is 21/10/1996
Mortal Kombat 3 - Beta 23-3-96 <-- never released on the Saturn, Sony bought a half year exclusivity, SEGA released Ultimate MK3 instead at 7/06/1996
Myst 27/7/95 <-- PAL retail dates to 11/08/1995
Batman Coin op (Batman Forever) 23/9 <-- PAL retail is 25/10/1996, USA retail is 08/10/1996. Arcade version is 07/05/1996
Tennis Arena 16/9 <-- japanese ntsc final dates to 20/01/1998
Fifa 97 Beta 3 3/3/97 <-- Fifa 97 PAL retail is 16/02/1997 (almost a month earlier?)
Slam N Jam Saturn Pal 23/4 <-- PAL retail is 23/04/1996
Personally, I'm the most interested in Scorcher; that game has been in developement for ages, and not by just nobodies, but by Zyrinx who coded that highly impressive Scavenger 32x demotape. (In fact you can see early footage of the saturn game AMOK in that tape, which was coded by Lemon, another team under Scavenger). |
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Druid II
Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 50
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:31 am Post subject: |
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rmonton wrote: | I want to put some screenshots of the games as well... there is any decent Saturn emulator for grab the screenshots?? , because my Saturn console it´s half-dead.... |
You can use the japanese emulator titled SSF, it's near perfect - but requires a powerful computer (p4/athlon64 minimum, dual core recommended).
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~phantasy/ssf/index.html |
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rmonton
Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 11 Location: Paraguay
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Your requested info for Chill...
Yoyo screenshot...
Saturn Config
Disc Photo
And the SRP Header info...
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-079
T-7616H-50V1.00019980119CD-1/1
E JE
CHILL |
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Dot50Cal
Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 111
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Try turning the Scanline option off on SSF if you capture anymore images, makes screenshots a bit beter
Nice stuff! |
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S.F
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Well then I can say sorry I doubted you!
Last year some clown stated he had different interesting protos and turned out to have nothing at all, thats why I asked.
Very nice to see, if you ever willing to sell them there's plenty of people interested in buying them as you can see. (myself included).
Also interested in MK3 as -like said- Sony had an exclusive deal so that stopped the original MK3 from being released on the Saturn.
Thanks! |
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rmonton
Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 11 Location: Paraguay
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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I´m very sorry.... testing with emulator, MK3 it´s really a Beta of Ultimate MK3...but my Disc says MK3 Beta...
SRP Info...
Mortal Kombat 3
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-999
T-99901G V1.000199441122CD-1/1
JTUBKAEL J
SAMPLE GAME |
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S.F
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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I recall MK3 being available -roughly- at the PSX launch so yes, I think we could have figured from the date. Still, nice to see you tested it. |
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