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NGD



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not going to get to involved in this discussion cause it is pretty heated and been discussed many times before. Everyone can bitch about the NA community editing the ROMs but when that is the only option we have from the person we are getting them from, what choice do we have? It is either don't release them at all, or release them in the slightly modified form. Plus the coders are all still getting credit for what they done in the end credits. The only thing that has been changed at all is the Licensed by Nintendo part, and the copyright date removed (per Dream's requirements). Nothing else in the game is being changed at all in any way. Plus all the original ROMs are backed up and saved so they won't be lost with time.

I am a NES historian as well, I have piles and piles of NES information and documents and have preserved and shared the majority of it with the NES community over the years. I understand why people would be concerned if the ROMs were just being altered and the originals were lost forever but that isn't the case at all.

On Happy Camper for instance, I changed the title screen ROMs for it as well, but I own the rights to that game now (yes I have written proof of that from the company) , and I have every right to do as I see fit with them.

Finding new stuff is getting harder and harder these days as sources and places dry up to find stuff in the wild. So getting ANY unreleased game out to the masses is a major victory in my eyes for the community as a whole. Sure not everyone is going to be happy, but you can't please everyone. Hell I bet if I stood on a street corner and handed out gold bricks that some people would still bitch that the person in front of them got a bigger brick, LAUGHING OUT LOUD.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

<TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARN>*




*translated from whataever language predators speak
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NGD wrote:
I am not going to get to involved in this discussion cause it is pretty heated and been discussed many times before.


I don't think you can say that and then write four paragraphs man. It just isn't ethical. I had better edit that down for re-release.

NGD wrote:
TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARN
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kap wrote:
NGD wrote:
TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARN LICENSE 1989 NINTENDO OF AMERICAPAN
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kap wrote:
kap wrote:
NGD wrote:
TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARN LICENSE 1989 NINTENDO OF AMERICAPAN


Note that I'm just picking on you because you're there NGD, please don't take it personally. :)

TAAAAARN.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not really. Its kinda like a clean floor...the floor is clean, you spill shit on it, its a dirty floor, but you sweep it up, its a clean floor. Your just putting it back to its original state. Thats not a hack.


And for a real honest to goodness response, you can't restore something back to its original state when you don't know what its original state is. You can make it look right and you can make it look clean but you just don't know, and from a preservationist's standpoint, that is not the same thing or good enough.

If you want your own cleaned up rom more power to you, but it isn't something that should be distributed nor should it be represented as original/unedited; it just doesn't logically make sense or work.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sup kap
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posting the original crcs for PRG and CHR would be a nice step but I bet it won't happen Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kap wrote:
NGD wrote:
I am not going to get to involved in this discussion cause it is pretty heated and been discussed many times before.


I don't think you can say that and then write four paragraphs man. It just isn't ethical. I had better edit that down for re-release.

NGD wrote:
TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARN


By that I meant I was going to say my 2 cents and leave you boys to it and not fight back and forth just for the sake of doing it :p At least I have a cut body and a huge green dick at least O_o Everyone try not to take this stuff SO seriously, it is just a hobby after all. Have a fun safe holiday weekend.
~~their NGD :p
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look! It's kap! And he's doing stuff!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this thread. TAAAAAAAARN
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smeg wrote:
sup kap


Certainly not me. :(

Ichiban Crush wrote:
Look! It's kap! And he's doing stuff!!


This counts as stuff? Jesus.
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