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Xkeeper



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had an NSF of this for a while, not sure where I got it. I think someone else made it?

Anyway, back when we first got the ROM I wrote a script to dump the levels. No sprites, though, but you can really tell how lazy they were, especially with the second stage:

http://xkeeper.net/private/butter/

There are some other hidden things in the game and other stuff we found, maybe when someone's not busy they can pilfer all the interesting stuff out of that thread.
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Gil-Galad



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xkeeper wrote:
I've had an NSF of this for a while, not sure where I got it. I think someone else made it?


Other people said they had the NSF too but when I asked for it, they didn't have it. I thought maybe they were talking about the Bio Force Ape Homebrew, perhaps.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gil-Galad wrote:
Xkeeper wrote:
I've had an NSF of this for a while, not sure where I got it. I think someone else made it?


Other people said they had the NSF too but when I asked for it, they didn't have it. I thought maybe they were talking about the Bio Force Ape Homebrew, perhaps.


No one in their right mind would make an NSF of any of the public versions of the homebrew...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://xkeeper.net/mus/Bio Force Ape (Unreleased).nsf


Here's my copy of it. Has a date of 4/8/2010, which is about a week after we won the game (so probably a few days after it was dumped).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Covell ripped the NSF shortly after dumping the ROM.
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Gil-Galad



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smeg wrote:
Chris Covell ripped the NSF shortly after dumping the ROM.


Ah, that's explains it. If you guys release that NSF, I can remove mine no problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

:-( Gil, if my NSF is missing the noise track (sounds like it is) but yours has it, then everyone please delete my rip.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tongueman wrote:
Sad Gil, if my NSF is missing the noise track (sounds like it is) but yours has it, then everyone please delete my rip.


The first release I made didn't have the noise channel. The second and last release does have the noise channel. I fixed it today as a matter of fact. Compare NSFs; yours and mine to see what's going on with yours. I can't tell if yours has the noise channel since I don't have the file.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My rip is missing the noise channel, so <sigh> delete away!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is the best day of my life
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am Christina Aguilera wrote:

If you piece together those graphics below the Seta USA logo, you get:


(credit to ICEknight)
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I am Christina Aguilera



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep feeling like it should turn out that this was Suda51's first game or something.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skrybe wrote:
I am Christina Aguilera wrote:

If you piece together those graphics below the Seta USA logo, you get:


(credit to ICEknight)


LAUGHING OUT LOUD. I found this kinda hard to believe, but then when I looked myself I could also make out a letter "S". Since I read that it's original working JP Title was "Crack Buster", perhaps it's a chunk of the old logo?

... can't seem to find "Crack", though, although there seem to be more scattered letter-parts in the general "title screen graphics" area. Is there perhaps a way to provoke the graphic into appearing on-screen in some form?
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gilbert cheung



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed it resembles "Something Butt... err... Buster":


I think the first half of the tiles are overwritten by those used for the US title (mainly the APE part and the SETA logo which shouldn't belong there) and so it is not recoverable at this point.
Edit:
All right, I've found some spare tiles in another bank that fit nicely and resemble the 'T', so it's quite concrete that there is a 'BUSTER' part in the original logo (possibly the T part is animated like flickering or whatever):


There is a solid 'B' as well, don't know how it's used. Maybe used as sprites underneath the background to give some more colours.
Maybe there are some other left-over stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a cool looking logo, I like it better then the one that ended up in the final game.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of curiosity, where does the (awesome) boxart come from?
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KingMike



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a Japanese magazine ad.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone wanted to make a repro cart, could they use the art from that ad without it looking like total ass? Just curious.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Odd though, the ad mentioned that it was to be a Super Famicom game, unless it's referring to the content on top of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome. My hat is off to Frank. I can't wait to try this out after all these years!
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