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ArnoldRimmer83 · Staff Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 540

I was kind of glad when I found out the DS won't play old GB/GBC games. Mainly cause I was hoping that this might cause gaming stores to stop overcharging on 17 year old gameboy games. (Charging $15 for Tetris? Not Tetris DX mind you, regular old launch title almost as common as SMB/DH Tetris.) Wishful thinking probably.

Still kind of early for me to warm up to the DS. I probably won't get much of an impression of it, until there are actually some games out for it. Right now I'm mostly interested in Wario Ware, that Yoshi touch and go thing, and Castlevania. Also that Goemon game and Another, though I'm guessing the Goemon game doesn't have a chance in Hell of coming out to the US. (Another reason I hope DS emulation becomes possible in the future. Translations.)

The Green Meanie · Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 218 Location: The New Wave

TheRedEye · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:57 pm Post subject:

PopaSmear · Staff Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 178

I don't understand what you think I was arguing. The title was just a refrence to the fact that a lost treasure's thread had turned into a DS thread, and I wanted to move the discussion here.

Also, Goemon should be totally playable in english, and the DS is region free. I actually prefer playing certain games (made in wario) in japanese.

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ArnoldRimmer83 · Staff Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 540

That female shopkeeper I'll admit looks pretty freaky. Other than her, the graphical style looks interesting to me.

I'm just glad Konami didn't decide to make this another one of those awful looking "New age Goemon" games. You know the futuristic Megaman X style Goemon games? Granted I've never actually tried the GBA or PSX versions of that, but from seeing the screenshots I certainly had no interest in doing so. That and the fact that the GBA one seemed to get nothing but negative comments.

The Green Meanie · Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 218 Location: The New Wave

Woah guys, I think you're looking too deep into this. Maybe I should have said it earlier, but what I was refering to was this: The sentence, "The Nintendo DS is a video game system" in the literal sense says its a video game system. I was saying that (in a literal sense) that the Magnavox Odyssey is a video game system as well. No intentions to make either seem extinct or anything like that. Sorry for going English professor there for a second.

Kitsune · FURRY Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 318 Location: Mexico

Richter Belmont · Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 285 Location: Murfreesboro, TN

Red, I think Kitsune actually has a good point, for two reasons.

1.) It is true that it's the Nintendo DS, and "not even CALLED Game Boy", but Nintendo rode the fence by throwing in GBA support. It is a separate product, so they shouldn't have gone halfway. They just want to have some features exclusive to the GBA/SP (i.e. multiplayer and backwards compatibility) so people want both.

2.) Most importantly, the DS doesn't need a separate processor. It actually already has a Game Boy/GBC emulation mode, which can be accessed by soldering a two wire mod. But Nintendo doesn't want people to know that.

It all comes down to sales. Nintendo wanted to sell more systems, so they disabled the emulation mode. A good business decision perhaps, but I can't say I'm not a little disappointed in them.

Carnivol · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:00 pm Post subject:

2: That was a hoax...

James · Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Posts: 86

Smeg · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:51 pm Post subject:

IT'S A CONSPIRACY

Kitsune · FURRY Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 318 Location: Mexico

KlarthAilerion · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:00 pm Post subject:

kap · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:25 pm Post subject:

I seem to recall a lot of people being pissed off when the SNES wasn't backwards compatible to NES games. Nevermind the fact that, you know, you could still play your NES.

Heh.

Kitsune · FURRY Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 318 Location: Mexico

Considering the SNES CPU is supposed to be a better version of the NES... ;p

(At least from what I read at some programming docs years ago)

Smeg · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:56 pm Post subject:

A CPU is only one component of any piece of hardware, so that doesn't guarantee compatibility. The 65816 is a sort of 16-bit "extension" to the 6502 processor family, and I think it's mostly (or fully) reverse compatible with the 6502 opcodes. The SNES doesn't have any PSG capability that I know of though, so sound drivers would have to be rewritten for NES games to have sound on the SNES' SPC700 (of course it could be argued that they could have included a PSG chip for backwards compatibility, but again that wouldn't be cost effective). The controller port wiring is actually pretty much the same (aside from the pins being physically rearranged), such that hardware hacking-inclined folks have rewired SNES controllers for use on NESes.

I agree with kap, but most people seem to feel the need to "trade the old model in" on a new system as if they were buying a car. I couldn't understand those kids who were always in such a rush to get rid of those games they seemed to like so much just a year earlier.

Richter Belmont · Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 285 Location: Murfreesboro, TN

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