Navigation

iamstillhiro1112 · Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 154 Location: Minnesota

That's my opinion. A wiki where anyone can post info or screenshots of beta's and unreleased games. Theres too much disorganization, with such info being scattered across multiple websites.

ProgrammingAce · Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 580

Wiki's don't always work out so well....

Case in point: http://assemblergames.com/wiki/dogatemysnes/pmwiki.php?n=Site.AllRecentChanges

My favorite quote:
Please stop these annoying "ProgrammingAce sucking Assembler's bollocks"-types of messages please!

kap · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:16 am Post subject:

Lo, the many projects LostLevels has been too lazy and indecisive to get off the ground (or at least past half-finished).

Wonderbutt · Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Posts: 323 Location: Doritos Inc.

Well Proggy, you may have a point, darls.
Under NEC PC Engine, some fella listed Space Fantasy Zone as unreleased, and has a link to a video of the game on Youtube.
Well, this is a screenshot I took in September of 2006, using Magice Engine.
It might have been of a beta dump or whatever.

iamstillhiro1112 · Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 154 Location: Minnesota

wiki gets mistakes too, but that if it's used by people in the know also then those mistakes will likely be caught.

It's good to see that there is a wiki tho.

TheRedEye · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:28 am Post subject:

I always figured the problem with assembler's wiki (and many others like it) is that it seemed like he just installed it, made a post saying it was open, and left it at that. I don't care how much your audience loves you, they're not going to put any real effort into something like a wiki unless you get the ball rolling and set a good example. That's why our internal Lost Levels wiki never went public, we all realized that we didn't have time to make it worth a damn.

iamstillhiro1112 · Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 154 Location: Minnesota

I see one problem with it. I don't see a log in. I like to keep track of my changes. And it allows others to catch people who post misinformation and let them know about it.

Plus it looks so bland, plain text and few pics. They shoulda just used wikis look.

http://www.datacrystal.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros.

Thats another wiki. Even tho it don't have a lot of information at least it looks decent. They should go for something like this.

ICEknight · Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 569

handofg0d · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 455 Location: PA

Well, if theres all this bad information/misinformation flying around out there, and someone opens up a wiki, where do you think the contributors are going to be getting their information? It would most likely end up being a consolidation of all the bad information, in one easy to use central location!

Sardius · Staff Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 508 Location: Austin, TX

kap · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:22 pm Post subject:

TheRedEye · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject:

Dais · Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 142

Nosuch · Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 107

To be fair to DataCrystal, it actually does have a bit of genuinely interesting information* when everyone's not busy writing entries about crappy hacks.

*Genuine interest being relative, of course.

handofg0d · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 455 Location: PA

iamstillhiro1112 · Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 154 Location: Minnesota

Datacrystal does suffer from lazy staff. I am in the process of adding tons of info and things to the site tho, cause I see good potential in it. I've thus far added images/templates to most of the games, I will later add all the rom and ram maps that I can find, so it may yet become the hub for game data.

But on topic, Having a select few trying to make a all in one resourse for all things beta hasn't work out so far. Perhaps a community effort would get this done, if it's started by the right people. I think a lost levels wiki would of been good, especially if it had the features Dais mentioned. Login and such.

TheRedEye · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject:

We haven't thrown out the idea entirely yet. Our private one is still functional, and it's built with management in mind (in fact, it's not a wiki at all, more like a database that allows user input, which we can manage and approve/deny on our end).

Dot50Cal · Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 111

Why not make it open for editing by pre-approved people only?

iamstillhiro1112 · Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 154 Location: Minnesota

Real time editing is part of the fun of wiki tho. Why not just have a review team comb over the site from time to time instead?

TheRedEye · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:07 am Post subject:

That's a valid issue that we're exploring, I think the solution we came up with was to constantly monitor any changes made via a simple list and, indeed, let people update on the fly.

As far as a "closed beta" or whatever, what it really comes down to is that I won't feel comfortable having a wiki/database until I know I have the dedication to be its main contributor. Right now, I recognize that I don't.

Navigation

Lost Levels Forums