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XDelusion
Joined: 07 Jan 2004 Posts: 23 Location: Tuck Son AZ
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:48 am Post subject: Sonic: The Lost Levels |
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Do any of you recall back when Sega first started putting an in game picture of Sonic on the back of the Genesis box?
If you had the chance to see this, you should have noticed that it was a picture of Sonic in world 2, but...
...there were these little chips (rotating I assume) falling from the sky, yet this was NOT part of the game when it finally came out.
What's the deal? Was that only in the beta version, or what, was it leaked, ect. |
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TheRedEye The Internet's Frank Cifaldi
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 4192 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:34 am Post subject: |
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This one?
I'd always assumed this was concept art. I think BMF might have more insight than me, though. |
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DavidDurica
Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 166 Location: Boynton Beach, FL
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nateJC
Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 65 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Those probably aren't falling chips from the sky. Considering Sonic's position, they look more like platforms that were later taken out. Most likely they made the level too hard for the average gamer. Whether this was proven through focus group or just speculation by Sega I don't know but that's probably what happened.
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TheRedEye The Internet's Frank Cifaldi
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 4192 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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I stand by what I said: that's concept art. Those platforms may have never appeared in the game itself. |
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lugnut Staff
Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 147
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I tend to agree with you, Red. Something about that lava doesn't look "right" by Genesis standards. |
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Smeg Staff
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 1600 Location: beneath enemy scrotum
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Assuming for a moment that the platforms in that image were once real code and not just a mockup, I theorize that they'd have been removed because they were disruptive to the gameplay. Sonic games are all about high speed, and those platforms don't look like they'd lend themselves well to that. They look rather boring and useless, really. |
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Sushi D
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 4
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 1:35 am Post subject: |
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yeah... i kinda agree with you smeg....
there have been a few more mock ups... like a desert level (Known in the sonic community as "Dust Hill Zone") and such..
the real sonical* goodness resides in a BETA of Sonic 2 dug up by a guy named Simon Wai (affectionately named Simon Kawaii). two somewhat constructed levels have been found in them...
http://sws2b.dyndns.org:1124/
that is his site..
wah... i come from this sonic-cult.org community.... many of the members there chop through the sonic games finding things....so this isnt new for me...
meh.. i need a change from the sonical-ness..which is why i'm ghosting here... you folks here have some hi-q stuff...
*Sonical - A term coined in a weird japanese 'Sonic Advanced' commercial... |
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TheRedEye The Internet's Frank Cifaldi
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 4192 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:16 am Post subject: |
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SEEN IT. But yeah, definitely worth mentioning. I've been following this stuff for what seems like years. |
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BMF54123 Staff
Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 743 Location: Henderson, NV
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:46 am Post subject: |
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I think it's safe to say that most of the screenshots released by Sega themselves are mockups--they want the game to look its best, so they manually paste Sonic, the enemies, Rings, etc. into the scene. The shots have been dissected numerous times, and most people in the Sonic secrets scene nowadays would probably agree that Sonic's pose and positioning in each of the shots is totally unrealistic, considering how both the camera system and the game physics work. This doesn't mean that the elements in the screenshots never existed in the game, since some graphics and enemies have been found buried in the Sonic 2 prototype, but the scene layouts themselves are most likely pure fiction.
Pretty much the only Sonic discoveries that excite me anymore are new magazine screenshots (almost always taken from a real prototype cart), or actual lost data... |
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ICEknight
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 569
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | there have been a few more mock ups... like a desert level (Known in the sonic community as "Dust Hill Zone") |
Please note that this was just an assumption made by some Sonic fans after seeing that there was a "Dust Hill Zone" in the early level select screen... Even if it led to a completely different stage when selected. |
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