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akadewboy
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Dot50Cal
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:33 am Post subject: |
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Someone on Assembler mentioned that French versions of the top loader had this at one time. |
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TheRedEye The Internet's Frank Cifaldi
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 4192 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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I seem to remember these being display units. |
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johntorn
Joined: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 14 Location: castalbania
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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I remember hearing about these online about ten years ago or so. Someone posted something somewhere saying that he had heard about them, called Nintendo (via the number you would call to order replacement parts, etc.), and ordered one for something like $50, but then they told him that they only had something like fifty of them. I'm sure those details aren't entirely accurate. Until seeing these pictures I was always under the impression that the hookup would have just been the two RCA plugs (as on the original NES model). I wonder what audio signal you get from the stereo Nintendo plug? I'm sure it's the same signal for both channels, only other option I can imagine is only sending through one channel which wouldn't seem right.
Always been a little bummed that my NES-2 only has RF output, because it's a lesser quality signal, but... we are talking about 8-bit graphics. It's ok.
Also I'm pretty sure there's a hack to get a cleaner signal out of a regular NES-2. |
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LocalH
Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 160
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:04 am Post subject: |
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Seems to me like an AV Famicom that Nintendo put a 72-pin port and an NES badge on. They even hastily slapped an NES-001 label on the bottom =P |
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BMF54123 Staff
Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 743 Location: Henderson, NV
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: |
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I fail to understand why Nintendo didn't just release the AV version in the first place and provide the RF module separately, like they did with the N64. Probably would've cut down production costs slightly, leaving it out of the unit. |
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KingMike
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 898
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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They probably wanted to do it as cheap as possible.
And they figured everybody had an RF-capable TV in those TVs, whereas I don't think composite was yet a standard feature even on low-end TVs. |
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johntorn
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I remember reading somewhere that Japan had a much bigger "installed base" of TV's with the newer hookups than the US did, hence the difference between the two versions.
I also remember a bunch of my friends throwing a fit when the N64 didn't come stock with an RF hookup, and that was a few years later. I used a VCR to get around that problem well into the next decade. Ha! |
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Smeg Staff
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 1600 Location: beneath enemy scrotum
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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KingMike wrote: | They probably wanted to do it as cheap as possible.
And they figured everybody had an RF-capable TV in those TVs, whereas I don't think composite was yet a standard feature even on low-end TVs. |
That's not a satisfactory explanation. Why would "toaster" NESes have composite output, but not the top-loader, which was released later and should conceivably therefore be an improvement? |
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neomerge
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 351 Location: Woodstock GA!
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:13 am Post subject: |
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Wow that price is atrocious.
I really want to get a nes-2 but haven't been able to find one in my price range ($30-50). I remember once I found one that went for like $40 un-noticed on ebay but at that time I didn't have any money. |
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Smeg Staff
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:43 am Post subject: |
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neomerge wrote: | I really want to get a nes-2 |
No you don't. The regular ones output RF only. |
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akadewboy
Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: |
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The price is outrageous, especially since no one is even sure if this is real. It could be some kind of elaborate mod. The guy should provide more proof, such as taking a pic of the inards. |
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BMF54123 Staff
Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 743 Location: Henderson, NV
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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neomerge wrote: | I really want to get a nes-2 but haven't been able to find one in my price range ($30-50). I remember once I found one that went for like $40 un-noticed on ebay but at that time I didn't have any money. |
Though it's even further out of your price range, you'd be much happier with an AV Famicom + adapter. Trust me on this one.
The only thing it lacks is NES Zapper support, but apparently that's easily fixable. |
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neomerge
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Smeg wrote: | neomerge wrote: | I really want to get a nes-2 |
No you don't. The regular ones output RF only. |
I could care less, The nes-2 systems have less of a failure rate. I can live with RF output on an old gaming system. |
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Smeg Staff
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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neomerge wrote: | Smeg wrote: | neomerge wrote: | I really want to get a nes-2 |
No you don't. The regular ones output RF only. |
I could care less, The nes-2 systems have less of a failure rate. I can live with RF output on an old gaming system. |
Couldn't care less. And if you're going to make up statistics, at least make up figures to go with them. |
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Skrybe Staff
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:44 am Post subject: |
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To be fair, the springs that hold the cartridge in place in the original NES have been known to give out on well-used systems. The redesigned NES doesn't have this problem. |
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I am Christina Aguilera
Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 159
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Skrybe wrote: | To be fair, the springs that hold the cartridge in place in the original NES have been known to give out on well-used systems. The redesigned NES doesn't have this problem. |
Happened on mine. I have to plug any NES game into a Game Genie now before it will work. |
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BMF54123 Staff
Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 743 Location: Henderson, NV
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Wouldn't a folded-up piece of paper or foam stuffed on top of the cartridge be less of a hassle (and easier on the connector) than a Game Genie? |
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I am Christina Aguilera
Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 159
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: |
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BMF54123 wrote: | Wouldn't a folded-up piece of paper or foam stuffed on top of the cartridge be less of a hassle (and easier on the connector) than a Game Genie? |
I doubt that it would help. The problem with mine is that once the cartridge is pressed down in the console, it usually takes 5+ minutes to get the springs to release it. It's gotten to be nearly impossible to get my games to work when directly connected to the NES too. But for whatever reason, when I use the Game Genie, the peripheral that ruined every NES's connector, my games play fine. Go figure! |
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Smeg Staff
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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What is this about Game Genies ruining NES connectors? |
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