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NESPlayer
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:31 am Post subject: X-Rated NBA Jam SNES Prototype Is On F**king Fire! |
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Quote: | Nintendo Player has featured its fair share of wild prototypes in the past, but none have been as outrageous as this: a vulgar, uncensored version of the Super Nintendo classic, NBA Jam. This prototype has to be seen (or, rather, heard) to be believed.
Check out the full article for all of the trash talk and then watch the NSFW video on YouTube! |
I had to jump through several hoops to finally get permission to have this prototype released. The contributor of NBA Jam XXX went to great lengths to keep their identity a secret, so let's respect their privacy and give our thanks by simply playing and enjoying this wonderfully filthy game. |
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BMF54123 Staff
Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 743 Location: Henderson, NV
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Okay, wow, this really made my night. Thank you. |
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I am Christina Aguilera
Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 159
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:38 am Post subject: Re: X-Rated NBA Jam SNES Prototype Is On F**king Fire! |
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This is my new favorite thing. |
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sebmal
Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 152 Location: Somewhere!!
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:45 am Post subject: |
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This is the best. |
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Evan
Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 948
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Aside from the obvious changes to the announcer, was there anything else of note that was different? |
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FeelMyGeek
Joined: 03 Jun 2012 Posts: 7
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I guess that means i'll have to make a repro for my collection... |
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TheRedEye The Internet's Frank Cifaldi
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 4192 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Evan wrote: | Aside from the obvious changes to the announcer, was there anything else of note that was different? |
I haven't played it in a while, but I remember it being an unfinished version of the game.
Oh, I remembered wrong, article says otherwise. |
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Boco
Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 37
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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According to Kotaku, Tim Kitzrow has no memory of recording these lines. I'm more inclined to believe he forgot rather than their conclusion (that it's a forgery). |
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TheRedEye The Internet's Frank Cifaldi
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 4192 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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I am too since I know the actual origin of this thing. |
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TheRedEye The Internet's Frank Cifaldi
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 4192 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for reading my Twitter, Kotaku <3 |
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DarkTetsuya
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 80
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Boco wrote: | According to Kotaku, Tim Kitzrow has no memory of recording these lines. I'm more inclined to believe he forgot rather than their conclusion (that it's a forgery). |
I read another blog's post about this on tumblr and someone commented that Tim said he didn't remember... though the video and the ROM are out there, so I'd conclude that he just forgot.
EDIT: So I guess the ROM doesn't work on ZSNES? |
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NESPlayer
Joined: 10 Dec 2010 Posts: 40
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:20 am Post subject: |
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The ROM works on SNES9X.
For better or worse, I've always used the word "prototype" as a catch-all to describe any legit game contained on dev hardware. Like, for example, one of the upcoming SNES proto articles was going to be about Harvest Moon. Even though it's most likely a magazine review copy because the code is identical to retail, for organizational purposes, it's simpler for me to classify the game as a prototype with no differences.
People on YouTube are saying that the "clean" voice-overs are still in the game code right alongside the curses, and that this was made sometime between the 1.0 and 1.1 retail versions because Charles Barkley's stats are featured with Dan Majerle’s sprite and name during gameplay (Barkley was removed from later copies of NBA Jam because he signed on to star in his own video game, Barkley Shut Up and Jam!). |
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DarkTetsuya
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 80
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:32 am Post subject: |
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Ahh gotcha. I figured as much but been busy visiting family so I never really took the time to investigate this thing further. |
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etabeta
Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 70 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:12 am Post subject: |
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NESPlayer wrote: | The ROM works on SNES9X. |
FWIW the game works in BSNES and MESS as well... |
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NESPlayer
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Thanks to some good investigative journalism by Danny Gallagher at Game Trailers, more of the story comes out:
Quote: | Mark Turmell, a former creative director at Midway and senior creative director at EA who now works for Zynga, created the iconic arcade sports games that helped build Midway Sports through the 1990s and 2000s. He also helped bring the series back to our consoles with recent relaunches of NBA Jam, NBA Jam On-Fire Edition and NFL Blitz.
He said through a conversation with Side Mission on Facebook that he saw the video the other day and recalled doing some similar audio recordings with voice actor Tim Kitzrow during the development of the arcade game.
"I can confirm that in the early days we did record tons of off-color stuff," Turmell said.
Lines like "Get that **** out of here" and "He's on ******* fire" were recorded when they worked on the arcade version of the game for Midway. Turmell said they actually tried to put the "Get that **** out of here" line into the final version with a "bleep" sound over the offending word, but the NBA objected and it was removed.
None of the other salty lines made it in the game, but Turmell said there were recordings and Acclaim Entertainment, the studio that worked on the SNES version, had access to all of their arcade audio archives. He said he wasn't present during Acclaim's recording sessions with Kitzrow.
"We all laughed at the various lines, so it'd be no surprise if they made a custom EPROM version," Turmell said. "Not ROM though, because that would have been manufactured."
Turmell couldn't definitively say if the video that surfaced yesterday came from those sessions, something that Kitzrow denied to Kotaku because "Jam was too big to have ever messed around like that." We also reached out to Kitzrow through his email and Facebook for comment on the video and Turmell's recollections.
He does, however, have an opinion on the video's authenticity.
"I believe it's legit," Turmell said.
UPDATE: Kitzrow sent us an email after this post ran that he doesn't remember recording any of the dialogue in the recent video but notes that long hours can take its toll on any project and may have led to some joking around in the recording studio. He also said he never knew or heard of anyone from Acclaim taking such recordings and turning them into a workable game.
"Really don't have any recollection of anything like that ever existing…there are times when the hour is late in the studio that we kid around and yes as in any recording studio or on any job for that matter, I'm sure there were some off color moments but as far as an 'R' rated game ever existing I highly doubt it…sounds like a hack job of some sorts to me." |
http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/24711/nba-jam-nsfw-video-might-be-fake-but-mark-turmell-remembers-some-off-color-recordings
I can't figure out Kitzrow, but I truly hope Kotaku reads this and does an update. I've been getting a lot of flak and e-mails because of Mr. Schreier's post. |
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Evan
Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 948
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'm truly amazed at how much press this is getting. |
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sebmal
Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 152 Location: Somewhere!!
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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NESPlayer wrote: | I can't figure out Kitzrow, but I truly hope Kotaku reads this and does an update. I've been getting a lot of flak and e-mails because of Mr. Schreier's post. |
Don't hold your breath, dude. |
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DarkTetsuya
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 80
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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NESPlayer wrote: |
I can't figure out Kitzrow, but I truly hope Kotaku reads this and does an update. I've been getting a lot of flak and e-mails because of Mr. Schreier's post. |
My guess is nobody wants to own up to the fact this thing happened... like the way the donor of the cart didn't want to be identified either. |
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KingMike
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 898
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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While I didn't tell them, somehow I knew it wouldn't take kotaku long to find out and post about something like this.
Stuff that gets on kotaku tends to get a lot of press. |
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Richter Belmont
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 285 Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say "R-rated NBA Jam" would be more apropos, but I suppose that makes for a less provocative headline. Nonetheless, I've always been a big fan of NBA Jam, and it is fascinating to see this come to light. It was certainly gracious for the parties involved to make this possible. |
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