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Ancient Oldie
Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 60
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:21 am Post subject: Dungeoun Crawl version of Phantasy Star 4 |
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I had seen an article a while back about a version of Phantasy Star 4 that had a nice, 1st-person dungeoun view similar to part 1. Supposedly, they canned the dungeoun crawl mode and went for the overhead view that is now found in the game because of memory limitations on the Genesis cart.
Does anyone have any more info on this and has that proto been dumped??? |
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TheRedEye The Internet's Frank Cifaldi
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 4192 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:57 am Post subject: |
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All I know is that it was scrapped. No, no prototypes have been dumped, and I kind of doubt that any review copies had the crawl intact. |
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Li Wang SnHX WiIYrd
Joined: 29 Aug 2003 Posts: 798
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:26 am Post subject: |
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There's a screenshot of one of the dungeons at phantasy-star.net here. |
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Smeg Staff
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 1600 Location: beneath enemy scrotum
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Looks like Phantasy Star IV by way of Shining in the Darkness. I'd play it. |
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adaml Staff
Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 616 Location: In the VIP
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:14 am Post subject: |
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I'd be all over that. So reminiscent of Phantasy Star 1. |
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TheRedEye The Internet's Frank Cifaldi
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 4192 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:50 am Post subject: |
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I like PSIV just the way it is. |
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Smeg Staff
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 1600 Location: beneath enemy scrotum
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:43 am Post subject: |
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TheRedEye wrote: | I like PSIV just the way it is. |
I'm not suggesting that I'd prefer it wasn't changed, just that I'd like to play the prototypical version :P |
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PopaSmear Staff
Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 178
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Smeg wrote: | TheRedEye wrote: | I like PSIV just the way it is. |
I'm not suggesting that I'd prefer it wasn't changed, just that I'd like to play the prototypical version :P |
I don't think you HEARD THE MAN. Phatasy Star IV is to remain AS IS. No prototypes are to be found. No early playable versions are to be documented. IS THIS UNDERSTOOD? |
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Ancient Oldie
Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 60
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Go shit on a rock and eat it, you rat bastard... We all know that this version would have been better. |
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anarchy99
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 102 Location: Austin TX
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Preach it, g! FUCK YALL MUHFUCKAS. |
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Ballz Staff
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 610 Location: st. petersburg, florida
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Watch your language, Ancient Oldie. |
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TheRedEye The Internet's Frank Cifaldi
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 4192 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 3:00 am Post subject: |
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Those dungeon crawls were annoying as hell in Phantasy Star, thank god they ditched 'em.
I should add that they were also IMPRESSIVE in Phantasy Star, and worked well for the first game. However, I'm happy we're past that, and I'd rather the 3D dungeon crawls be put to rest. |
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Kid Fenris
Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 301
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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TheRedEye wrote: | Those dungeon crawls were annoying as hell in Phantasy Star, thank god they ditched 'em. |
Yes. Phantasy Star IV could have improved the dungeon-crawl formula with an auto-map feature, but the overhead perspective is still a much better choice.
I'm more interested in the retrospective artwork that was shown with early previews of Phantasy Star IV. While I'm not sure if these images were intended as part of the game's intro, I wish they had used them in the final version.
Still, my favorite piece of Phantasy Star IV trivia is the illustration of you-know-who and you-know-who's kid. Some hopeful fans take it to mean that Sega actually had a PSIV sequel in mind around 1995, though I, for one, doubt that. I just like the piece in the same way that I like the art for the original Lunar follow-up, where everyone's older and Alex is a mullet-sporting lumberjack. |
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Ancient Oldie
Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 60
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:00 am Post subject: |
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TheRedEye wrote: | Those dungeon crawls were annoying as hell in Phantasy Star, thank god they ditched 'em.
I should add that they were also IMPRESSIVE in Phantasy Star, and worked well for the first game. However, I'm happy we're past that, and I'd rather the 3D dungeon crawls be put to rest. |
I'd have to disagree. I recently played Wizardry on the PS2, and it proved to me that the 3D dungeoun crawler, in conjuction with a good mini-map, is far from outdated. Wizardry, BTW, was probably the only RPG that I liked on that particular console.
I think Sega could have pulled it off and made the Phantasy Star series much more popular if it wasn't for the Genesis cart limitations.
Unfortunately, we'll never be able to know...
And sorry if I pissed anyone off, if I curse at you, it means that I like you, and that I'm not gay... ;) |
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KingMike
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 898
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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PopaSmear wrote: | I don't think you HEARD THE MAN. Phatasy Star IV is to remain AS IS. IS THIS UNDERSTOOD? |
Possibly old news by now, but
Sorry, but it's not happening.
So, we're going to get the Sega Ages Phantasy Star 1, but apparently SCEA wouldn't allow that alone, so now we also get a PS2 PS2 :D and PS4. |
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Smeg Staff
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 1600 Location: beneath enemy scrotum
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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KingMike wrote: | PopaSmear wrote: | I don't think you HEARD THE MAN. Phatasy Star IV is to remain AS IS. IS THIS UNDERSTOOD? |
Possibly old news by now, but
Sorry, but it's not happening.
So, we're going to get the Sega Ages Phantasy Star 1, but apparently SCEA wouldn't allow that alone, so now we also get a PS2 PS2 :D and PS4. |
Heh, that isn't what the Smeared one was referring to.
Hey, they cut out PS3? Excellent. |
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ArnoldRimmer83 Staff
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Smeg wrote: | Hey, they cut out PS3? Excellent. |
Figures since that probably would've benefitted the most from a remake. :P |
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KingMike
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 898
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:25 am Post subject: |
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Smeg wrote: | KingMike wrote: | PopaSmear wrote: | I don't think you HEARD THE MAN. Phatasy Star IV is to remain AS IS. IS THIS UNDERSTOOD? |
Possibly old news by now, but
Sorry, but it's not happening.
So, we're going to get the Sega Ages Phantasy Star 1, but apparently SCEA wouldn't allow that alone, so now we also get a PS2 PS2 :D and PS4. |
Heh, that isn't what the Smeared one was referring to.
I knew that, but at the moment I wrote it, I felt I just HAD to throw that in. Sorry.
Hey, they cut out PS3? Excellent. |
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Richter Belmont
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 285 Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Good to see that the Phantasy Star remake is coming overseas after all, I was getting worried.
I never really got why people hated PS3 so much. Sure, it gets redundant sometimes, but so did most other RPGs. PS3 actually had some really cool ideas, like playing through with generations of characters, that age and have children, and can choose different spouses, which affects the story and playable character pool. My only big complaint is the map system. The world map is inexplicably tiny and obtuse. |
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Smeg Staff
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 1600 Location: beneath enemy scrotum
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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ArnoldRimmer83 wrote: | Smeg wrote: | Hey, they cut out PS3? Excellent. |
Figures since that probably would've benefitted the most from a remake. :P |
You can't polish a turd. |
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