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Ancient Oldie



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:43 pm    Post subject: Mario 3D on the SNES??? Reply with quote

I had heard that a Mario 3D proto was made for the SNES in a different forum, and I wanted to ask the experts if this was true. Any info that you guys could shed on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard of this myself, but I kind of doubt it. Anyone?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard of such a thing, either.

Maybe some magazines just misunderstood the message when Super Mario Kart was announced... or maybe Super Mario RPG, with its isometric worlds.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard of this... it apparently used the Super FX 2 chip, but the project was cancelled in favour of N64 development. I've only seen it in one magazine, though, so it could have just been some guy making shit up.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's this guy on this thread at Cherryrom's saying that he knows for sure that there's a proto because he knows some hardcore collector that verified it's existance and that he has even seen pics of the game on some Swedish magazine called Superplay.

Anyways, that news caught my attention, since every single gamer at the time would have heard about a 3D Mario game in development for the SNES (especially during a time when people actually looked forward to 3D games). But I haven't heard anything about it, and being that you guys specialize in the rare and unknown and haven't heard about an extremely sought after Mario game either, then most likely this guys either been badly misinformed, or just talking shit.

But anyways, thanks for the feedback.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I read a fair share of gaming mags back in the day, and I don't remember anything about a SNES 3D Mario either. It could exist, but I would tend to doubt it too.

I was rather amused by the fact that the guy is like "Its existence is not up for discussion" despite the fact he has no screenshots, scans of the article, or any other hard evidence to back it up. Even some screenshots they give to the gaming mags are mock-ups, so I would say it's highly questionable.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had heard that a Mario 3D proto was made for the SNES in a different forum, and I wanted to ask the experts if this was true. Any info that you guys could shed on the subject would be GRATEly appreciated.


If you could narrow down the time when the story was out and about, I've got Nintendo Pravdas from SMB3 through Blast Corps. I could dig though them. Maybe there's something in there.
Semi OT, are there any other Mario protos or unreleased games known of?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only 3-D Pre-N64 Mario games I can think of are Yoshi's Safari and Mario's Time Machine [that thing had a surfing area, I believe]. Or it could've been Mario is Missing.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DavidDurica wrote:
Semi OT, are there any other Mario protos or unreleased games known of?


Super Mario's Wacky Worlds for the Philips CDi.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="DavidDurica"]
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Semi OT, are there any other Mario protos or unreleased games known of?


There was also Mario Land for the Virtual Boy. Ended up getting scrapped, and Nintendo made what was supposed to be a mini game within it into a stand alone title. Mario Clash.


There's also Donkey Kong Music Education for the Famicom. Some pics of it are available on Skrybe's page:

http://64.53.95.207/ujap/dkmusic/dkmusic.html

Don't know if the screens are from a prototype, or if they're just mock ups. I really wish that game had come out though. I love Nintendo's early Nes titles.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello, first post.

anyway, i can remember [i'll have to dig out the issue -from around 94-95 'ish] reading in SuperPlay [the original UK publication] an article where one of the staff members got a look round Nintendo's HQ, and being told that a Snes Mario 3D had been canned in favour of a new 3D Mario game for the proposed 'Project Reality' [ie. N64] console, but that the Snes incarnation had been heavily developed and that even test cartridges had been made, which supposedly lucky members of staff have in their possesion..

i'll look for the article and post it later [when i've got time :wink: ].


great site by the way.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Video proto Super Mario's Wacky Worlds for the Philips CDi.

http://dl.fileplanet.com/dl/dl.asp?classicgaming/blackmoon/movies/proto/mariomov.zip

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kami Sama wrote:
Video proto Super Mario's Wacky Worlds for the Philips CDi.

http://dl.fileplanet.com/dl/dl.asp?classicgaming/blackmoon/movies/proto/mariomov.zip

Anderson


Hey, link to the whole article. It's an interesting read in spite of mediocre proofreading/copy editing.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's also "Return of Donkey Kong" for the NES, which may or may not had been the basis for Donkey Kong '94.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZR-1 wrote:
hello, first post.

anyway, i can remember [i'll have to dig out the issue -from around 94-95 'ish] reading in SuperPlay [the original UK publication] an article where one of the staff members got a look round Nintendo's HQ, and being told that a Snes Mario 3D had been canned in favour of a new 3D Mario game for the proposed 'Project Reality' [ie. N64] console, but that the Snes incarnation had been heavily developed and that even test cartridges had been made, which supposedly lucky members of staff have in their possesion..

i'll look for the article and post it later [when i've got time :wink: ].


GRATE site by the way.


Our 100th board member, ladies and "gentlemen." This calls for a celebration of some sort, which I'm too lazy to actually think through.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GROUP HUG!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smeg wrote:
Kami Sama wrote:
Video proto Super Mario's Wacky Worlds for the Philips CDi.

http://dl.fileplanet.com/dl/dl.asp?classicgaming/blackmoon/movies/proto/mariomov.zip

Anderson


Hey, link to the whole article. It's an interesting read in spite of mediocre proofreading/copy editing.


I don't know these link, only the link video, very old in my list.
Thank you for "info-link"...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ancient Oldie wrote:
There's this guy on this thread at Cherryrom's saying that he knows for sure that there's a proto because he knows some hardcore collector that verified it's existance and that he has even seen pics of the game on some Swedish magazine called Superplay.


Well, I have an issue of the swedish Super Play that has the following picture in an article about SNES...



...with the following quote attached to it (translated from Swedish):

"Prototype carts for Super NES are getting harder and harder to find. Many are also missing labels, so you shouldn't have too high expectations before you've put them in your console. A copy of the three-dimensional Super Mario-game is deffinitely invaluable."

Could this be the cart?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now we're getting somewhere. Does anyone know what is printed on the label?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's printed on it? It's just a blank version of the label that's commonly seen on Super Famicom prototypes.
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