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Kid Fenris



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:26 am    Post subject: Wolfteam's Apros Reply with quote

You’ve probably heard of Wolfteam, the Japanese developer responsible for numerous titles on the Genesis, SegaCD, and PC-Engine. You probably also know that Wolfteam fell apart when most of the talent left in 1993. As prolific as the group had been, its dissolution apparently didn’t leave many projects in limbo. One of the few lost games was Apros, which I know next to nothing about. The only screenshots I’ve found are in this vaguely worded capsule preview from the February 1993 issue of (Diehard) Gamefan.



(That's Wario's head in the frame. I'm not sure why he's calling Mario his brother.)

Apros was mentioned again in the June 1993 Gamefan, where the letters columnist informed a reader that “the guy who was developing Apros has left Wolfteam (along with many others) and is starting his own company. He told Kei that he will continue development but is unsure of what format Apros will appear on. (It may be several.)”

Gamefan was not the most reliable magazine in 1993, but the screenshots are nonetheless interesting to me. Are they video sequences, or was the entire game going to look like that? And which system would have hosted the game?

Figuring that it might have seen release on PCs, I dug through a bunch of Japanese sites and found the word “Apros” on a list of PC-98 games, with no accompanying details.

I'm stumped. Any ideas?

Edit: Hey, here we go:

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MegaCD: Apros: An animated-cell game, not on LD, but completely created by CG on the MegaCD by Wolfteam, and based on characters in a novel series called Logout. The next announcement about the game was it's cancellation.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since the little blurb says Mega CD, My guess is it was for the Sega CD (since that's what it was called in Japan).

Other than that, I got nothin. :?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, http://www.shadatannis.com/wolfteam/gamelist.html seems to indicate that the game was planned and cancelled for MCD, but released for the PC98.

Edit: I'm a retard, nevermind.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only important person I can think of who left Wolfteam around that period was Masaaki Uno, who left to lead Camelot Software Planning. Wolfteam didn't dissolve then, though. Their last release was Cybernetic Empire for the PlayStation in 1999. All I've got for this game is that Telenet Japan's site lists it as being released on the PC98 in December of 1992. I'm guessing the screens shown in Gamefan are of an upgraded remake/port. As a hopeless Wolfteam junkie, I'd love to know more.

Also, Wario calls Mario his brother because he is. Dunno about that Waluigi fellow though.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smeg wrote:
The only important person I can think of who left Wolfteam around that period was Masaaki Uno, who left to lead Camelot Software Planning. Wolfteam didn't dissolve then, though. Their last release was Cybernetic Empire for the PlayStation in 1999.


What about the folks who supposedly left to program Tales of Phantasia for Namco and later formed tri-Ace? When did they leave? Or is that just a rumor? A Gamefan blurb also mentioned that some ex-Wolfteam members went to form Gau (later Nextech), but I have no idea if that's accurate.

I was under the possibly mistaken impression that Wolfteam, like Compile, dropped out of the action-game spotlight after some core staffers left circa 1993/94, and that Cybernetic Empire was an attempt by the remaining members to get back into the field.

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Also, Wario calls Mario his brother because he is. Dunno about that Waluigi fellow though.


All those years of playing Mario games, and I didn't know this. I thought that Mario and Wario were childhood friends, just because of that old Nintendo Power comic.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kid Fenris wrote:
What about the folks who supposedly left to program Tales of Phantasia for Namco and later formed tri-Ace? When did they leave? Or is that just a rumor? A Gamefan blurb also mentioned that some ex-Wolfteam members went to form Gau (later Nextech), but I have no idea if that's accurate.

I was under the possibly mistaken impression that Wolfteam, like Compile, dropped out of the action-game spotlight after some core staffers left circa 1993/94, and that Cybernetic Empire was an attempt by the remaining members to get back into the field.


You're probably on the money about Cybernetic Empire, but no one left Wolfteam to create Tales of Phantasia - it's a Wolfteam game, but Namco didn't see fit to put any other company's name on the project. I think that may have been part of the reason the "three aces" departed to form tri-Ace - that, and the fact that Namco wanted them to do nothing but sequel the piss outta Tales. That'd be circa '95-96 though, a bit later than what you mentioned. I think. I believe one of the more recent GBA games in the Tales series actually makes mention of Wolfteam, but what remains is now officially "Namco Tales Studio", condemned to make the same game over and over again. I'm not familiar with Gau/Nextech.

Compile, man. More deceased homies.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kid Fenris wrote:
All those years of playing Mario games, and I didn't know this. I thought that Mario and Wario were childhood friends, just because of that old Nintendo Power comic.


They're......not cousins? That's what I remember the story being when Wario Land was first coming out...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smeg wrote:

Also, Wario calls Mario his brother because he is. Dunno about that Waluigi fellow though.


I gotta find it. I know there was an interview in NP August 2000. Supposedly, Waluigi was just made up as a doules partner for someone in Mario Tennis (N64).
And his name is from warui ("bad" in Japanese).
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Marioland 2 manual mentions that Wario was jealous of Mario's popularity when they were boys. I had assumed they were rivals, though it would make sense if he was related to Mario and Luigi in some way. I just wonder where in Mario's family, Wario could've inherited those pointy ears from. :P
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingMike wrote:
Smeg wrote:

Also, Wario calls Mario his brother because he is. Dunno about that Waluigi fellow though.


I gotta find it. I know there was an interview in NP August 2000. Supposedly, Waluigi was just made up as a doules partner for someone in Mario Tennis (N64).
And his name is from warui ("bad" in Japanese).


Yeah, it was pretty obvious there was no actual plot behind Waluigi. I never knew there was a logical reasoning for his name, though. I always just thought it was goofy (and it is :P).
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smeg wrote:
KingMike wrote:
Smeg wrote:

Also, Wario calls Mario his brother because he is. Dunno about that Waluigi fellow though.


I gotta find it. I know there was an interview in NP August 2000. Supposedly, Waluigi was just made up as a doules partner for someone in Mario Tennis (N64).
And his name is from warui ("bad" in Japanese).


Yeah, it was pretty obvious there was no actual plot behind Waluigi. I never knew there was a logical reasoning for his name, though. I always just thought it was goofy (and it is :P).


It's got a few plays on words:

Waruiji = bad old man
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember my friend and I wincing when they announced his name was Waluigi. It's just so... EXTRANEOUS compared to Wario. We thought it should be Waigi, or even Weege (either would be pronounced wee-gee).

It would be more consistent and logical (after all, they didn't call the first one Wamario) instead of merely trying to avoid a slight pronounciation debacle. I mean, his name would get said aloud in-game, people would have figured it out.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked it when Mario Tennis pulled Princess Daisy out of obscurity, just so Luigi wouldn't be lonely.

Smeg wrote:
Interesting stuff.


Thanks for clearing up some of my misconceptions about Wolfteam. I'm strangely fascinated by their catalog, but much of what I know about them comes from rumors, like the Gau/Nextech bit. It's probably not true, even if Ranger-X looks vaguely like a Wolfteam title.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey -- wish I'd seen this topic sooner.

I made that shadatannis.com page that mentions Apros. It's a fantasy adventure game with lots of (non-CG) animation. I've got the PC-98 game, and I've got a magazine that shows screens from *before* the Mega CD version was canned... and I've got to say, it looks nothing at all like those pics from the Gamefan mag. I don't care what Gamefan says, those screens aren't from Apros Wink
(Unless Telenet assigned the name "Apros" to a different project and the Wolf Team guy who left had to give his project a new name. Stranger things have happened in the past.)

I've unfortunately shoved the game down into a box in the basement, so I don't have it handy. But I'll dig it up and post some scans.

EDIT--- Here are some scans!
http://www.shadatannis.com/images/apros1.jpg
http://www.shadatannis.com/images/apros2.jpg
http://www.shadatannis.com/images/apros3.jpg

I know that last pic is pretty poor. If I find better images (I know I have some), I'll post those too. These scans just happened to be on my hard drive...

//Zig

PS- One of the Ranger-X programmers was also the main programmer on Earnest Evans, and I think he worked on Sol-Feace too.
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